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Old 07-07-2008
Martin Thomas
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Default Vatican Approves of Harry Potter

I just found this:

- Legion of Decency
-
- Vatican Approves of Harry Potter
-
- VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Harry Potter fans, relax. The Vatican
- says the kid is all right. The question of whether J.K.
- Rowling's books and the films on the boy wizard have a positive
- influence came up at a news conference Monday where the Vatican
- presented a document on "New Age" spirituality, which contain
- elements of the occult. "I don't think that any of us grew up
- without the imaginary world of fairies, magicians, angels and
- witches," said Father Peter Fleetwood, a Vatican official who
- worked on the document. "They are not bad or a banner for
- anti-Christian ideology. They help children understand the
- difference between good and evil," he said in response to a
- reporter's question.
-
- Michael J. Matt
- Editor, The Remnant
-
- Reprinted from The Remnant
- 21170 W. Linwood Drive NE
- Wyoming, MN 55092

http://www.catholicintl.com/epologet...nofdecency.asp






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Martin Thomas
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Old 07-07-2008
Nakas
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Default Re: Vatican Approves of Harry Potter


"Martin Thomas" <mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net> wrote in message
news:95gilv89inads1o2u445blge8kg7nv8hoi@4ax.com...
> I just found this:
>
> - Legion of Decency
> -
> - Vatican Approves of Harry Potter
> -
> - VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Harry Potter fans, relax. The Vatican
> - says the kid is all right. The question of whether J.K.
> - Rowling's books and the films on the boy wizard have a positive
> - influence came up at a news conference Monday where the Vatican
> - presented a document on "New Age" spirituality, which contain
> - elements of the occult. "I don't think that any of us grew up
> - without the imaginary world of fairies, magicians, angels and
> - witches," said Father Peter Fleetwood, a Vatican official who
> - worked on the document. "They are not bad or a banner for
> - anti-Christian ideology. They help children understand the
> - difference between good and evil," he said in response to a
> - reporter's question.


You almost have to feel bad for the poor fundies, aren't they confused
enough already? Would someone please just tell them what to think so they
aren't forced to strain their decrepit atrophied brains?


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Old 07-07-2008
Tom McCafferty
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Default Re: Vatican Approves of Harry Potter, the Vatican also has acceptedevolution.



Martin Thomas wrote:

> I just found this:
>
> - Legion of Decency
> -
> - Vatican Approves of Harry Potter
> -
> - VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Harry Potter fans, relax. The Vatican
> - says the kid is all right. The question of whether J.K.
> - Rowling's books and the films on the boy wizard have a positive
> - influence came up at a news conference Monday where the Vatican
> - presented a document on "New Age" spirituality, which contain
> - elements of the occult. "I don't think that any of us grew up
> - without the imaginary world of fairies, magicians, angels and
> - witches," said Father Peter Fleetwood, a Vatican official who
> - worked on the document. "They are not bad or a banner for
> - anti-Christian ideology. They help children understand the
> - difference between good and evil," he said in response to a
> - reporter's question.
> -
> - Michael J. Matt
> - Editor, The Remnant
> -
> - Reprinted from The Remnant
> - 21170 W. Linwood Drive NE
> - Wyoming, MN 55092
>
> http://www.catholicintl.com/epologet...nofdecency.asp
>
> -
> Martin Thomas
> mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net


I think U.S.A. needs God to push their beliefs. The American schools
that ban Potter also NEVER teach evolution.


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Old 07-07-2008
John VanSickle
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Default Re: Vatican Approves of Harry Potter, the Vatican also has acceptedevolution.

Tom McCafferty wrote:
>
> Martin Thomas wrote:
>
> > I just found this:
> >
> > - Legion of Decency
> > -
> > - Vatican Approves of Harry Potter
> > -
> > - VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Harry Potter fans, relax. The Vatican
> > - says the kid is all right. The question of whether J.K.
> > - Rowling's books and the films on the boy wizard have a positive
> > - influence came up at a news conference Monday where the Vatican
> > - presented a document on "New Age" spirituality, which contain
> > - elements of the occult. "I don't think that any of us grew up
> > - without the imaginary world of fairies, magicians, angels and
> > - witches," said Father Peter Fleetwood, a Vatican official who
> > - worked on the document. "They are not bad or a banner for
> > - anti-Christian ideology. They help children understand the
> > - difference between good and evil," he said in response to a
> > - reporter's question.
> > -
> > - Michael J. Matt
> > - Editor, The Remnant
> > -
> > - Reprinted from The Remnant
> > - 21170 W. Linwood Drive NE
> > - Wyoming, MN 55092
> >
> > http://www.catholicintl.com/epologet...nofdecency.asp
> >
> > -
> > Martin Thomas
> > mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net

>
> I think U.S.A. needs God to push their beliefs. The American schools
> that ban Potter also NEVER teach evolution.


Exactly how many such schools are there?

Regards,
John
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Old 07-07-2008
Thomas Madura
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Default Re: Vatican Approves of Harry Potter, the Vatican also has acceptedevolution.



Tom McCafferty wrote:
>
> Martin Thomas wrote:
>
> > I just found this:
> >
> > - Legion of Decency
> > -
> > - Vatican Approves of Harry Potter
> > -
> > - VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Harry Potter fans, relax. The Vatican
> > - says the kid is all right. The question of whether J.K.
> > - Rowling's books and the films on the boy wizard have a positive
> > - influence came up at a news conference Monday where the Vatican
> > - presented a document on "New Age" spirituality, which contain
> > - elements of the occult. "I don't think that any of us grew up
> > - without the imaginary world of fairies, magicians, angels and
> > - witches," said Father Peter Fleetwood, a Vatican official who
> > - worked on the document. "They are not bad or a banner for
> > - anti-Christian ideology. They help children understand the
> > - difference between good and evil," he said in response to a
> > - reporter's question.
> > -
> > - Michael J. Matt
> > - Editor, The Remnant
> > -
> > - Reprinted from The Remnant
> > - 21170 W. Linwood Drive NE
> > - Wyoming, MN 55092
> >
> > http://www.catholicintl.com/epologet...nofdecency.asp
> >
> > -
> > Martin Thomas
> > mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net

>
> I think U.S.A. needs God to push their beliefs. The American schools
> that ban Potter also NEVER teach evolution.


1- You are confusing the vast majority of Americans with a VERY small
minority of Christian fundamentalists who still believe in the Garden of
Eden too. However - as our laws allow all faiths - we defend their right
to be stupid - which defends our right not to be.

2- Very few schools - and mostly religious ones not controlled by the
state - banned Potter - but Evolution is an accepted part of the
curricullum in all public schools in the USA - and only Religious
schools could not teach it. Yes - some schools have gone to teaching
both - but be fair - the end result of 12 years of Public education
strongly agrees with evolution.
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Old 07-07-2008
Bertie the Bunyip
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Default Re: Vatican Approves of Harry Potter, the Vatican also has accepted evolution.

Thomas Madura <Thom-Madura@worldnet.att.net> wrote in
news:3F59C908.EEBA8798@worldnet.att.net:

>
>
> Tom McCafferty wrote:
>>
>> Martin Thomas wrote:
>>
>> > I just found this:
>> >
>> > - Legion of Decency
>> > -
>> > - Vatican Approves of Harry Potter
>> > -
>> > - VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Harry Potter fans, relax. The Vatican
>> > - says the kid is all right. The question of whether J.K.
>> > - Rowling's books and the films on the boy wizard have a positive
>> > - influence came up at a news conference Monday where the Vatican
>> > - presented a document on "New Age" spirituality, which contain
>> > - elements of the occult. "I don't think that any of us grew up
>> > - without the imaginary world of fairies, magicians, angels and
>> > - witches," said Father Peter Fleetwood, a Vatican official who
>> > - worked on the document. "They are not bad or a banner for
>> > - anti-Christian ideology. They help children understand the
>> > - difference between good and evil," he said in response to a
>> > - reporter's question.
>> > -
>> > - Michael J. Matt
>> > - Editor, The Remnant
>> > -
>> > - Reprinted from The Remnant
>> > - 21170 W. Linwood Drive NE
>> > - Wyoming, MN 55092
>> >
>> > http://www.catholicintl.com/epologet...nofdecency.asp
>> >
>> > -
>> > Martin Thomas
>> > mart666t@netscape.NO.HAWKERS.net

>>
>> I think U.S.A. needs God to push their beliefs. The American schools
>> that ban Potter also NEVER teach evolution.

>
> 1- You are confusing the vast majority of Americans with a VERY small
> minority of Christian fundamentalists who still believe in the Garden of
> Eden too.


And that small minority stupid enough to have voted for Shrub, eh?


Bertie
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Old 07-07-2008
Miranda
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Default Re: Vatican Approves of Harry Potter, the Vatican also has accepted evolution.

John VanSickle <evilsnackKOSHER@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<3F59A0CA.A484F4DB@hotmail.com>...
> Tom McCafferty wrote:
> > I think U.S.A. needs God to push their beliefs. The American schools
> > that ban Potter also NEVER teach evolution.

>
> Exactly how many such schools are there?
>
> Regards,
> John


Not sure about the Potter ban, but this 2000 link suggests 1/3 of US
schools do not teach evolution:

http://www.cnn.com/2000/NATURE/09/21/evolution.enn/

Now, I come from a country where we had a half-hour lesson of
(Christian) Religious Education every week. The only way to get out of
it was by being Jewish or taking Advanced Mathematics as an extra
subject. This was just one symptom of a sick, sick country (Apartheid
South Africa).

So, people shout at the US for falling short of its tremendous
potential in education standards, but there are so many worse models.
It's just that the US is Top Nation and everyone examines its
practices closely.

Miranda
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Old 07-07-2008
Paul Ciszek
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Default Re: Vatican Approves of Harry Potter

In article <phc6b.373276$uu5.71462@sccrnsc04>, Nakas <nakas@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>You almost have to feel bad for the poor fundies, aren't they confused
>enough already? Would someone please just tell them what to think so they
>aren't forced to strain their decrepit atrophied brains?


This won't confuset the Fundies at all. From their point of view, Harry
Potter is Satanic, Catholics are Satanic, therefore Catholics like Harry
Potter. QED.

--
pciszek at TheWorld dot com | "Mundus Vult Decipi"
| ("The world wants to be deceived")
| --James Branch Cabell
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Old 07-07-2008
Maverick
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Default Re: Vatican Approves of Harry Potter, the Vatican also has accepted evolution.

"Miranda" <miranda@mschumacher.com> wrote in message
news:f15e7843.0309060549.31e7ce3e@posting.google.c om...
> John VanSickle <evilsnackKOSHER@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:<3F59A0CA.A484F4DB@hotmail.com>...
> > Tom McCafferty wrote:
> > > I think U.S.A. needs God to push their beliefs. The American schools
> > > that ban Potter also NEVER teach evolution.

> >
> > Exactly how many such schools are there?
> >
> > Regards,
> > John

>
> Not sure about the Potter ban, but this 2000 link suggests 1/3 of US
> schools do not teach evolution:
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2000/NATURE/09/21/evolution.enn/
>
> Now, I come from a country where we had a half-hour lesson of
> (Christian) Religious Education every week. The only way to get out of
> it was by being Jewish or taking Advanced Mathematics as an extra
> subject. This was just one symptom of a sick, sick country (Apartheid
> South Africa).
>
> So, people shout at the US for falling short of its tremendous
> potential in education standards, but there are so many worse models.
> It's just that the US is Top Nation and everyone examines its
> practices closely.



To not teach evolution, or to teach creationism, is to pave way for a
generation where many people can not go on to higher education in the
sciences. Is this what the result they want to see?


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Old 07-07-2008
Tom McCafferty
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Default Actually an open mind about Harry Potter is also an open mind aboutevolution.

It seems some Christians believe:
A, Witchcraft exists.
B, Man and dinosaurs co-existed.
I don't believe either. If witchcraft works, I want to give it a try.
If the universe is only about 6,000 years old, why can we see stars, THOUSANDS of years old, and
galaxies and quasars MILLIONS, of years old.



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