Idon't think the Russians would intentionally start a muclear war --
they have absolutely nothing to gain from this.....

The greatest threat to humanity actually comes from a tiny little
country in the ME that has many nukes & arrogantly ignores UN
resolutions and categorically refused to sign the nuclear
non-proliferation treaty.....

They pose the greatest danger ever to civilization...

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cloghan@softcom.net wrote in message news:<3FCB7C2A.B5A57B4D@softcom.net>...
> The Shrub just ordered the Pentagon to create and manufacture ASAP a similar
> line of weapons. Now the fun starts!
>
> cloghan@softcom.net wrote:
>
> > ARE THE RUSSIANS WILLING TO START
> > WORLD WAR III?
> >
> > According to a recent article by veteran British military
> > analyst Joseph Vialls,
> > Russia has sent the most advanced and feared missile in the
> > world, owned only by
> > Russia and China, the P270 Moskit, also known as the 'Sunburn,'
> > to Damascus
> > and Tehran. This can only be understood as a counter to the
> > Israeli threats to use
> > nuclear weapons against their enemies.
> >
> > The Sunburn flies at an altitude of 60 feet and is nearly
> > impossible to defend
> > against. A few fired at Israel could make that state 'history.'
> >
> > Add to this a new Russian air force installation near the
> > Kyrgystan/Russia border,
> > coupled with a Chinese base just over their western border with
> > Kyrgystan, and
> > Armageddon may be on the horizon. All Russian jets at this new
> > base just outside
> > of Bishkek are equipped with Sunburn missiles.
> >
> > Vialls writes:
> >
> > "The gloves are off, and with America and Israel still unable
> > to steal any oil from
> > Iraq because someone keeps blowing the pipelines, Russian and
> > Chinese firepower
> > buildup suddenly slammed the door firmly shut on Caspian oil
> > reserves in the old
> > Soviet republics. For more than a decade American oil
> > multinationals have been
> > conducting 'joint ventures' in the former Soviet republics
> > bordering the Caspian Sea,
> > with the stated intent of pumping stolen crude oil out through
> > Turkey, then on to
> > western markets. Now this route has been blocked permanently,
> > and America is in no
> > position to do anything about it, because a large part of the
> > U.S. conventional army is
> > currently bogged down in Iraq, being shot at and killed on a
> > daily basis".
> >
> > For many who have been watching this region as a confrontation
> > between the
> > United States and Israel versus Russia largely over the control
> > of the biggest gas
> > and oil deposits in the world, a new front has been opened.
> >
> > As a response to this checkmate, Sharon recently visited Putin
> > on Nov. 3 to meet
> > with him concerning the nuclear issue in Iran. Quickly, Sharon
> > permitted
> > Palestinians to return to their jobs and eased their travel
> > restrictions.
> >
> > Since the end of the Gorbachev era, the Russian oligarchs,
> > nearly all Jewish by
> > ethnicity (with the noticeable exception of Vladimir Potanin),
> > have controlled
> > nearly all key sectors of the Russian economy. This, of course,
> > includes Russia's
> > major ace-in-the-hole, oil and gas. The giant YUKOS
> > conglomerate is presently
> > one of the largest oil companies in the world, valued at about
> > $40 billion.
> >
> > YUKOS is the result of a 'loans for shares' deal brokered
> > through the
> > semi-coherent Boris Yeltsin in 1995. Here, the liberal Russian
> > government
> > swapped loyalty from the oligarchs in exchange for
> > privatization at prices far below
> > that of the market. This $40 billion giant was bought for about
> > $300 million, thus
> > looting the entire Russian economy for the benefit of a handful
> > of Israeli citizens
> > living in Russia.
> >
> > When YUKOS' chair, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, was arrested at the
> > end of last
> > month, the American capitalist establishment went orbital.
> > Forgetting the 1999
> > New York Times's expose on massive money laundering and fraud
> > from YUKOS,
> > the conservative establishment began to lionize oligarchy and,
> > specifically,
> > Khodorkovsky.
> >
> > Recently, The Financial Times weighed in with a giggly piece
> > from Chrystia
> > Freeland, which referred to the oligarch as a 'democratic
> > activist.' About a
> > paragraph later, the writer said - without irony - that the
> > oligarch's model for
> > economics is the robber baron factories of the early American
> > 20th century. Fox
> > News, on Nov. 3, referred to YUKOS as the most progressive
> > corporation in
> > Russia.
> >
> > According to a Nov. 3 Agence France-Presse story, Khodorkovsky
> > made a deal
> > with Jacob Rothschild this year that control of the YUKOS giant
> > would pass to
> > Rothschild in the event of Khodorkovsky's arrest. However, the
> > Russian
> > government has frozen all YUKOS assets for the time being.
> >
> > It is significant that YUKOS's liberal pressure group, the Open
> > Russia
> > Foundation, is completely controlled by Rothschild now that its
> > founder is in jail.
> > As their official mission statement reads, "The motivation for
> > the establishment of
> > the Open Russia Foundation is the wish to foster enhanced
> > openness,
> > understanding and integration between the people of Russia and
> > the rest of the
> > world."
> >
> > Their board of trustees includes Rothschild and Henry
> > Kissinger. The
> > Washington, D.C. launch of the organization included Sen. Ted
> > Stevens
> > (R-Alaska) and Librarian of Congress James Billington, one of
> > the leading voices
> > against Russian traditionalism in the academic establishment.
> > Significantly, the
> > Open Russia Foundation recently provided Yale University with
> > substantial grants
> > to study the Russian economy as well as providing the Carnegie
> > Foundation with 3
> > percent of its entire operating budget.
> >
> > It seems that the drive to control the globe's energy is
> > progressing. The
> > American empire's battles in Serbia, Central Asia, Iraq and
> > Chechnya are one and
> > the same war. Other than fighting Israel's enemies, these
> > adventures are also
> > wars to control Central Asian oil and natural gas (one of the
> > main pipelines from
> > the Caspian Sea went straight through Serbia). The control of
> > this wealth by the
> > United States and Israel necessitates bypassing Russian
> > channels. This means
> > that the Jewish oligarchy in Russia would become the central
> > actor in world
> > politics.
> >
> > The Israeli/CIA complex was using Khodorkovsky to sell off the
> > assets of
> > YUKOS to Exxon/Mobil (as well as a smaller piece to Texaco),
> > hence bringing
> > Russia's pipelines into the hands of the western powers. The
> > Nov. 5 New York
> > Times also indicated that the Bush family's Carlyle Group was
> > involved.
> >
> > It was not long after Putin began threatening the YUKOS
> > conglomerate that
> > neo-conservative pundits such as William Kristol and Ariel
> > Cohen began calling
> > Putin a 'communist,' 'another Stalin' and 'tyrannical.'
> >
> > The basis of these wild accusations, of course, is the fact
> > that Putin stands in the
> > way of Zionist domination.
> >
> > From this, the roles of several other variables and players
> > develop clearly. The
> > State Department/Harvard University alliance was meant to
> > 'deregulate,' or
> > 'privatize' much of the Russian economy precisely to keep the
> > Russian state out
> > of the equation. Therefore, pro-Israel oligarchs (that is,
> > Israeli citizens living in
> > Russia) then benefited, placing most of the economy in their
> > hands, and, by
> > extension, Israel's.
> >
> > Russia's response has been to clamp down on further foreign
> > penetration into
> > defense and other sensitive industries, and specifically, to
> > target those believed to
> > be working for both the CIA and Mossad and attempting to
> > control Central Asian
> > oil.
> >
> > It needs to be reiterated that where the (CIA goes, Mossad goes
> > as well. Israeli
> > and American interests have come together in the dominance of
> > the Central Asian
> > region and therefore, so have liberal ideology, the Beltway
> > set, neo-conservatism,
> > Ivy League eggheads, Christian Zionism, the Rothschilds and the
> > American
> > media.) Afghanistan through the Caspian Sea through to Georgia,
> > Azerbaijan and
> > into the Balkans (not to mention pipelines leading to
> > oil-hungry China), have
> > become one single theater of war over trillions of dollars in
> > oil and gas wealth,
> > incorporating every single power center in global politics. The
> > battle against the
> > New World Order is being decided in Moscow.
> >
> > Therefore, all anti-Russian alliances in the region, from
> > Islamic fundamentalism to
> > Slavic separatism to the George Soros 'Open Society'
> > Foundation, are in the
> > interests of the CIA/Exxon/Ivy League/NWO complex.
> >
> > In Azerbaijan, for example, American elites have pushed for a
> > 'democratic' state,
> > that is, a state not under the control of pro-Moscow Heydar
> > Aliev, thus leaving
> > the country open to U.S. oil investment. Aliev, of course, is
> > promoting Russian
> > interests in the region, and thus, has become a ãtyrantä in the
> > Beltway mind.
> >
> > The American response to this situation within this region is
> > to create the
> > GUAAM pact, including, Georgia, Ukraine, Armenia, Azerbaijan
> > and Moldova.
> >
> > Cohen gives us a clue as to why this entity was brokered under
> > NATO auspices:
> > "The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan Pipeline will export up to 1 million
> > barrels per year of
> > high quality Caspian crude oil by 2005." In other words,
> > billions of dollars of oil
> > are slated to be pumped through this region very soon, and the
> > economic/military
> > alliance of GUAAM is the means to ensure American control over
> > it. This
> > connects the Serbian, Afghan and Iraqi wars.
> >
> > Russia's response to Israel's terror threats against most of
> > the Islamic world is
> > fully understood as both a political and economic question.
> > Further, increasing
> > cooperation between Russia and India, as well as China, are
> > clear markers that
> > Putin, one of the few actually competent leaders in world
> > politics, is building an
> > anti-imperialist and anti-NATO alliance with the aim of
> > countering
> > American/Zionist moves for the world's oil and gas wealth.
> >
> > The interests, however, go even further than Zionist control
> > over American
> > foreign policy decision-making. Vialls writes on another topic:
> > that the existence
> > of the American/Zionist empire is based on the victory of
> > American forces over
> > the Russian and Islamic. Of course, both in Bosnia and
> > Chechnya, the
> > Mossad/CIA operatives have not hesitated

On 1 Dec 2003 18:48:11 -0800, kaliyuga2004@hotmail.com (kali yuga
2004) wrote:

>Idon't think the Russians would intentionally start a muclear war --
>they have absolutely nothing to gain from this.....
>
>The greatest threat to humanity actually comes from a tiny little
>country in the ME that has many nukes & arrogantly ignores UN
>resolutions and categorically refused to sign the nuclear
>non-proliferation treaty.....
>
>They pose the greatest danger ever to civilization...

Israel...second only to America

Let me guess, you are some sort of stinky Muslim....



<Sumad Artson@fin.uk> wrote in message
news:d8gbtv0c3ugeiemf7cj49phupog7qic6uu@4ax.com...
> On 1 Dec 2003 18:48:11 -0800, kaliyuga2004@hotmail.com (kali yuga
> 2004) wrote:
>
> >Idon't think the Russians would intentionally start a muclear war --
> >they have absolutely nothing to gain from this.....
> >
> >The greatest threat to humanity actually comes from a tiny little
> >country in the ME that has many nukes & arrogantly ignores UN
> >resolutions and categorically refused to sign the nuclear
> >non-proliferation treaty.....
> >
> >They pose the greatest danger ever to civilization...
>
> Israel...second only to America